Okay, you guys. Let's start from the beginning. Could you briefly describe your situation at the time, where you were in the process, and what made your specific timing urgent? Alright. Well, we we started dating in October twenty four. K? So it's late in the year. A few weeks later, she moved in with me. She was here visiting her cousins who are also my cousins, but she's not my cousins. Yeah. She's not my cousins. She's her good strength. Sure. Yeah. Just through marriage, know, she related to my cousins and whatever. Anyway, she moved in, and then it was time for her to go back, right, in the six months as a visitor. So then we started researching. What do we do? What what's the process? How do we fix this? And then we found you, and we're like, holy moly. This is the holy grail. This is what we needed. We got in contact with you. I bought the program, the whole system. We implemented it, and I mean, like, that in a matter of week and maybe two weeks, I think. It was two weeks from the time that we that I bought the system from you guys to the time that she needed to go back back. And so we put it in, I mean, like, the last day. We've they will pack it like that and sent it in. And eight and a half weeks later, she got a green card. At the time, can you remember what confused you most about the process? Everything. We had no idea how to address this. We had heard of fiance visas. Right? But I also know that if the fiance who is not a citizen is outside of the country, they have to stay outside of the country until the whole process goes through. And that was a Different. That was no good for us. Yeah. Different. That'll work. So you considered basically fiancee visa just because it's so popular. Everybody knows about it. Yep. But then how did you discover that, you know, adjustment of status or doing it from inside the country was an option? YouTube videos. Right? So Yeah. There are there's a lot of a there are a lot of attorneys online on YouTube who post videos about fiance visas and adjustment of status. But they all want a retainer and their services. And as you stated in in your system, they're super expensive. Super expensive. And not only that, some of them were nonresponsive. Would send them emails and call, and I never got a callback or an email. So I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna pursue you. That's crazy. Yeah. You know? That that's already a bad sign that this is a nonresponsive attorney. I don't wanna work with them. And then somehow through the algorithm, I guess, your video started popping up. And I'm like, hey. Wait. This is what we need. And when you described it, was like, holy moly. Yeah. This is the perfect fit. We are the perfect candidate for this system. Okay. So you did consider hiring a lawyer. Yep. Did you get a chance to speak to any of them? Like, did you have a consultation? None of them called back or returned emails. Nope. Nothing. I guess they just they're busy posting videos on YouTube. Yeah. Oh, wow. How many attorneys do you think you reached out to? About four. Four. Yeah. Oh, so she had no idea how any of this works. Right? She doesn't speak a language, you know, not familiar with their system, their laws. She's familiar with the Mexican law system, which is very different from ours. Of course. And so she had nothing to work with. It was all me interpreting and translating. But, like, she's very sharp, so she caught on real quick, and we decided to go with your system because it was the best fit for our situation. Why did you think that? What made you feel that way? So, look, I work with contractors as part of my work. Right? And when they don't respond, we call them nonresponsive. So we can delete and go on. Yeah. So when they they respond and they're actually able to produce what they say they they are going to produce for for me, the client, yeah, it's it's a win win. Did you have any hesitation before enrolling? Because, you know, in this process, you have to take the time to actually sit down and do it. And you, your guys' situation, you were the one who had to take charge, even though you're also the one who works full time. So how did you how did you go about that? What were your what was your thought process at the time? I like that you called it a system. And once I saw the way it was kinda structured, I'm like, this looks like the work of an engineer is on. And then you mentioned your husband's an engineer. I'm like, hey. A full word. Right on. Yeah. I recognize these patterns right over there. Oh, yeah. This guy, I can tell he helped me put together the the system together. I realized, okay. These are the kind of people I I like to deal with. I I we're, like, on the same wavelength. We speak the same language. Everything just fit perfectly. You know? Once you started using the method, what was the experience actually like for you? So you saw that. You saw how it was structured. What happens from there when you were actually inside? Okay. Well, I actually enjoyed the fact that I had to do a lot of the filling in of the forms. The reason is in previous experiences with attorneys for other reasons and for other circumstances, what they've given me was crap. Okay? So they would send me a document that they prepared for me to review, grammar air grammatical errors. They didn't get the story correct. I mean, just a a myriad of issues where I thought, who the hell is in this office writing this crap? I know it's not the attorney because this is, like, high school level crap. You know? They that's I've encountered this with many, many different attorneys. You know, I I understand what they do. They pay paralegal or somebody crappy money to do crappy work, and that's what the client gets. Well, that's not good with me. That doesn't apply. So I like taking control of things because I know what's gonna come up because I have a completely vested interest in making sure that we succeeded. Right? Otherwise, she had to go back and what am I gonna do? How interesting. Was there maybe a specific part of the system that made the biggest difference as you went through the process or really any comments about the system itself? I think the system's great. I like the way you outlined it at first, and then we go through all the details, you know, as we go step by step. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. So you get the overview first, and then you get into the details. Yeah. So I think the system is structured very well. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. Easy. Okay. And then, you know, again, a lot of people think, well, this is a legal process. It must be complicated in the sense that I'm learning or I need to understand legal terms. I need to understand. Did you feel any of that? Nope. You guys made it so simple that I mean, I just followed. Like, what do you say? Rewind the video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's yeah. You have to work at not doing it correctly. You know what I mean? If you just follow if people just follow your what you have described and the processes that you have systematized, it's easy. Yeah. But it is time consuming because you're copying things or I mean, and it's very repetitive. Right? Because all these forms require the same evidence. And information like provide your address history, provide your work history and you're repeating biographic information over and over and over again. And then it took you, you said about two weeks and how was the medical exam everything like aligned time wise perfectly. No problem whatsoever. Fine. That's the first thing we got done, her medical exam. Drove to Westminster, which is about thirty miles from here maybe twenty miles from here. We got it done, and a week later, we got her envelope sealed. And then we got the, unsealed one for our records. So, yeah, everything went really well. Okay. So your your application got submitted. Then just you said two and a half months later, you guys had an interview. Okay. So I submitted the paperwork on Friday nine nineteen, and the appointment came on I missed an appointment, baby. Oh, on twelve ten. So December tenth. Yeah. Twenty twenty five. Yep. Okay. Tell me more about the interview because you shared some interesting things about the interview. Tell me how it went. Okay. So we went. Right? It was in downtown LA at the federal building. We walked in. There's a picture of the orange clown and the other misfits. It was just still wow. It's a joke. Like, know, it's like yeah. Alright. So we go in the room. We checked in, and we go to the waiting room, and there were about sixty people waiting around. Wow. All colors, all kind of age groups. I mean, every the whole world was there, basically. About thirty five to forty five minutes later, we got called in. So an agent came out, and he was really weird. He wouldn't make eye contact. He looked everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no contact. The dude had a maybe he was on the spectrum. You know? I don't know. He was weird. Yeah. I forgot. Officer Jones. Let's just call him officer Jones. So he takes us to his room. Right? I sat on the right to his right, and she sat on the left. They have a system. That's how they do it. So me, the the citizen sits on the right and the petitioner on the left. Alright. So we sat down, and, again, he's not making eye contact. He's looking down at the desk, up, everywhere but us. Wow. And he starts asking her questions. Where do you live? Where'd you come from? All those kinds of things, and she's not understanding. And I'm telling him, hey, officer Jones, should I translate? Because she's not understanding all your questions, and I don't want you to think that she's trying to mislead you because she's not really understanding fully. So it's not fair. And he said, no. You can't translate because that'll be a conflict of interest. I understand that. So do we have a Spanish speaking officer? Yeah. And he looked at us. I said, I think they might be gone. So let's just reschedule. I said, oh, no. No. No. We're not leaving here to reschedule anything. We're getting this done today, buddy. Yep. I said, well, see if I can find someone. Go wait outside. So we went outside. It you know, she disappeared. I am passion. My husband is, babe, no. Oh my god. Take it easy, please. Take it easy. Yeah. I can imagine. So Yeah. About thirty minutes later, we were called by a Hispanic officer. Yeah. Tall older guy. Real nice. So he takes us to his office, and he starts talking about some of the cases that he's worked on. He was telling about a ring of I forgot what nationality they were, but it was a ring that they were it was a scam. They had a a a business, basically, where they were for twenty thousand bucks. Wow. You know, you married a citizen, and you get your papers and blah blah blah blah. Yeah. And I was like, okay. Thank you for sharing. And he went on to another story and another one and on and on and on. And I this one I'm thinking, is this guy insinuating that if if I'm in one of those categories, he's gonna get me because he's this is he's really good at this? And I'm thinking, well, he's gonna mess up because there's no scam going on here, buddy. This is the real thing. Anyway so we talked about this and that. And then I shared with them that I worked for the sheriff's department. And then we started talking about law enforcement and this and that. For forty five minutes. By this point, I'm not concerned with his stories. I'm thinking yeah. I'm thinking, okay. We're we're building rapport here. This is this is good. So then he asked for a couple of things. Like, he asked if she had changed her name. Yeah. I said, yeah. She did. And I said, why do you ask that? They go, that's so that's so weird. And he says, well, because that's usually a sign that it's not serious, you know, if they don't change their names. I go, really? Yeah. I go because I am one of the liberal kind of guys that say, hey, honey. You don't have to change your name. Yeah. Yeah. Don't want to. I don't own you. If you wanna leave him asking, I don't care. It's fine with me. But she she's like, no. I wanna change it. Well, that helped us. I see that. And then he asked if we had joint bank accounts and stuff like that. I said, nope. I said, she doesn't have a Social Security card yet, and she can't we can't open up an account. So and I said, and I also have a disagreement with the way you guys view these items. I said, people who are really aware of finance and how it impacts how it impacts the household, they don't do joint anything. They keep things separate so that if one party goes down, seeks a financial hit, the other one's left intact and can carry the family forth. Right? Yeah. I said, so I never come and go anything. I stay here. I stay here. And I said, okay. Well, I I made up my mind before you guys actually even walked in. I read a report, and he's he looked at me and said, you're the all star. I go, I am? He says, yeah. And what do you mean by that? He goes, well, you're the one with the papers? I go, okay. Yes. And I saw what you make. So, yeah, you're good, dude. I'm like, okay. So so, yes, it was approved before you guys even walked in. Like, okay. Thanks. That was it. That was it. Look, I also meant to ask you. So doing it entirely yourself was never obviously an option. You didn't even consider it because you didn't know what to do. Right. Okay. But have you considered like maybe working with a company like Boundless? They basically prep your paperwork. Have you ever heard of them before or that's something entirely Yeah. When it comes to legal documents and stuff like that, I have a hard time trusting people because I've seen the result that a lot of these attorneys produce, and it's crap. I'm not impressed. Yeah. You see, from the start, our position was also similar in that when it comes to paperwork, we didn't want to store your data. We didn't want keep your data private. Yeah. We want you to just know exactly what needs to get done line by line, and then your computer is the only place where it is, and then it goes between you straight to the US. Yeah. Yeah. Look, what would you say to someone or let's just say similar couple considering this approach right now, but they wonder if the method would actually be a right fit for them. Well, I've been preaching your system to people at work that I know. Like, I have a friend who likes to go to Japan a lot, and I keep teasing him. I go, I think you're up to something with the ladies in Japan, dude. Because I I walked him through the whole system. He had gone through a he has he had tried to fix his mom's paperwork. His mom was he was born here, but the mom was here illegally, and then she got deported at some point. So he ended up fixing her pay so he went through this through something. I don't know exactly what. And, yeah, it was he said, dude, it was horrible, man. It sucked. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. Cost a lot of money. It took forever. And he actually had to hire an immigration attorney at some point because he couldn't do it. And says, yeah, dude. It was just the most horrible thing ever. Yeah. And I so he heard what this system did for us, and he was like, what the hell? Like, eight and a half weeks, dude, from submission to the green card. And he gets blown away. Yeah. That's so cool, you guys. Look. Thank you so much, you both, for taking the time to share your experience. I really appreciate it. And again, I know that this this interview will be so helpful for other couples who are currently, trying to figure out what is the best way to approach this process. And either way, I'm wishing you the best with the rest of your immigration journey, I'll talk to you soon. Sounds good? Sounds great. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you.